In Just Write, Molly asked:
Q: "A couple of questions:
When do you think you should start to expect proper grammar?"
A: My answer will stun any English teachers out there but I happen to know firsthand what the public schools are turning out and I have read what homeschooled children can write so I have no hesitation in saying, I wouldn't worry about proper grammar until age ten, or eleven, or twelve. I think Charlotte Mason backs me up on this. At the beginning of high school I definitely expect my child to have basic grammar mastered.
Reading is the most basic grammar program you can give a child. My readers have been my best grammar students and my best writers. And this is where I see that for some children it comes naturally and for some it doesn't. I've had experience with both.
Let me just say I have a fifteen-year-old I'm still working with. (homeschooled)
Let me just say I have a forty-one year old husband I'm still working with. LOL (public schooled)
I say do gentle grammar lessons before age ten. CHC's Language of God, Jessie Wise's outstanding First Language Lessons, Emma Serl's Primary and Intermediate Language Lessons, and Simply Grammar.
Outside of this gentle approach, just let them read. Lots. Read with them, using your finger as a pointer. I'm a true-believer in the art of osmosis. Oh, and don't leave out copywork...
Q: "With copy work do you choose something different each day, or stick with a particular source?"
A: This varies with season, interest, and child.
My six-year-old is copying out of workbooks at the moment. Words and very short sentences. Nothing fancy.
For the older ones, when I was putting together Catholic Mosaic we did copywork from the various picture books (found in CM).
I remember my oldest son doing a lot of copywork from essays in Voyages in English. That was in our early days of homeschooling.
My ten-year-old daughter uses, primarily, Seton's 4th grade handwriting book (because of its lovely artwork and detailed copywork) and she keeps a journal of favorite quotes and poems on her own. We have a Nature Book as well which we haven't taken down in awhile (wintertime, you know) but it's filled with quotes and poems and pictures. That's truly a lovely way to keep track of copywork. Earlier this year she used these great quotes by Helen Keller because that was our rabbit trail for a couple of months. I'm afraid those sheets are still sitting in our cabinet, completed but not placed nicely in a folder. That happens sometimes.
My fifteen-year-old copies from National Geographic primarily but he has trouble dismantling what he's reading. However, he can diagram sport reports quite easily. That's where his interest is and so he practices what he's interested in without any prompting from me. I see him copying sport news off the Internet quite frequently and his essays are beginning to sound very sport broadcaster-styled. It's definitely good practice in "cut-to-the-chase" reporting. He also uses copywork suggested by Laura Berquist in Designing Your Own Classical Curriculum. This is my security blanket that he has a well-rounded grammar exposure.
Until a child can read well, they will not master the art of grammar.
If you want rigorous, I suggest Exercises in English. I've used these with all my children fifth grade and over. They are probably just a lot of busywork but they do teach discipline and they are the line I hold onto whenever I worry if my children are drowning in my own teaching deficiencies.
If you have a child over the age of ten who is still scratching their head over grammar placement and you are overwhelmed with wanting to "do it right" I would say be gentle with yourself and your child. Remember, frustration only breeds contempt and tears and nothing, nothing is learned during that meltdown.
One way to keep stress down and teach grammar painlessly, is to try nicely colored picture books. If you have A Picture Perfect Childhood you'll see a monthly listing for Language Arts. Almost everyone's library should have copies of these books:
I'm excited with the possibility of Jessie Wise's First Language Lessons for the Well-Trained Mind. Really excited. I wish we had had it from day one. As it stands, my youngest will be the plume recipient of its lessons. I'll let you know how it goes.
One more note (and a sure fire way of teaching your children to write effortlessly), let them sit on the edge of your computer chair and read your blog entries over your shoulder. They usually catch your mistakes and are thrilled when they do. :) Keeping their own blog is one of the best modern hands-on writing tools I can think of.
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